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09-16-2008, 07:44 AM
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| Of Logic and Liberty | For those who don't believe evolution.... How do you account for matching ERV (or endogenous retrovirus) remnants? I have never met a creationist who has been able to explain them away, so i don't expect to get much of a response now. Perhaps i can provoke a response. I consider the ERVs to be the final nail in the coffin.
__________________ "I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent." -Thomas jefferson |
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09-17-2008, 09:00 PM
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| Blinding you with science Join Date: Sep 2007
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 | Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... I say those who reject evolution should not be able to use it... don't get an influenza vaccine this year.
__________________ You can’t crap all over Darwin and stem cell research and global warming, then come crawling back to science when you want Tamiflu. So if humans evolved to have bigger and better brains, why are there still creationists? |
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09-19-2008, 09:22 AM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England
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| Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... Guessing know one fancies their chances with this one then? Come on Campbell I know you could.
__________________ Blessed are the Fundamentalists, for they shall inhibit the earth. |
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09-19-2008, 09:52 AM
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| Of Logic and Liberty | Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... Quote:
Basically a retrovirus is a virus that leaves genetic information (or remnants) on a part of the DNA of it's host. This is inheritable, so any offspring of the host will have this remnant on the same parts of their DNA. So by comparing the DNA and the retrovirus remnants on it we can tell if any individuals or even species are related because they will have the same ERV remnants in the same spots of the DNA. Not only that but we can use this method to trace the lineage of any given species, assuming we have the fossils to test. After comparing the ERV patterns of modern humans and chimps we have a nearly identical ERV pattern, which the chance of happening randomly is astronomically improbable. This is the same method used today for paternity tests. This is about as close to irrefutable proof as you can get, without actually witnessing evolution happen! And i don't plan on being around for another million years.
__________________ "I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent." -Thomas jefferson Last edited by Fatal_Freedoms : 09-19-2008 at 09:57 AM. | |
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09-19-2008, 10:04 AM
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| Of Logic and Liberty | Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... For those who want to learn more and can understand all the science jargon. reverse transcriptase: Definition from Answers.com
__________________ "I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent." -Thomas jefferson |
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10-17-2008, 07:40 AM
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| Of Logic and Liberty | Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... I posted this about a month ago and still no responses from the creationists!
__________________ "I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent." -Thomas jefferson |
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10-17-2008, 08:41 AM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: England
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| Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... Quote:
__________________ Blessed are the Fundamentalists, for they shall inhibit the earth. | |
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10-17-2008, 09:01 AM
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| Of Logic and Liberty | Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... Quote:
__________________ "I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent." -Thomas jefferson | |
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10-17-2008, 10:57 AM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Re: For those who don't believe evolution.... How about Old Earth Intelligent design? |
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