Quran Leads The Way to Science (Video)

Fascinating read Submitter.

Just to start off, the Koran compares embryos to leeches because they look similar and both need blood for nourishment? That's rather tenuous don't you think? The word alaqah can mean three things, all of which could be tenuously linked to an embryo but none of which actually mean embryo.

Then it goes on to say that the embryo will resemble a piece of chewed chewing gum?

You're just not winning me over, that is weak beyond a joke.

What context is this quote given in? You ommit immediately that this leech is made from clay, but leeches nor embryos are made of clay. So if "God" tells us people are made of clay, he didn't tell anyone very much about embrionic development at all did he? He made one glaring error in his first sentence!

Seriously though, does this crap work on some people?

That might say something to you!

Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moorehttp://www.islamreligion.com/video/moore-1.ramhttp://www.islamreligion.com/video/moore-2.ram).

Can you tell me, why would "God" describe embryos as looking like chewing gum, to a generation of people who had never seen it?

Unlike christians and other faiths, When the claims of truth become many, we as Muslims were ordered by Allah to seek the Truth by the proof, by the proof the Truth is known, because always there is only One Truth Which is the real truth.

"We (Allah) will show you (mankind) Our signs/patterns in the horizons/universe and in yourselves until you are convinced that the revelation (Quran) is the truth." [Qur'an, 14:53]

The perfect compatibility MIRACLES OF Quran (which was revealed 14 centuries ago) with modern Science prove that this Book could not be authored by man, rather a greater source had to have been the author of this Book. See the proofs Harun Yahya - An Invitation to The Truth

Well, keep trying because you're not very convincing.



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Firstly, man isn't even sure that blackholes exist yet. If they aren't fact you can hardly make a claim about revealing the same "fact". Secondly, "when the stars are extinguished" could be seen to mean many many things. I could just make something up to which would totally discredit any scientific merit in the Koran.

This is all really a very cheap trick, by proof we need tangible evidence of Mohammed's miracles. Not reinterpretations of ancient text to try to mean anything you want it to. Hindsight can be a wonderful tool, good luck in your campaign you'd probably fare better sticking to superstition.

Random details that have nearly no effect on the actual teachings of the Q'uran hardly consist a solid argument, IMO. Can you resume in a few verses what is the path of Islam?

Dr. Alfred Kroner ny. (To view the RealPlayer video of this comment click here http://www.islamreligion.com/video/kroner-1.ram). Also (View the RealPlayer video of this comment http://www.islamreligion.com/video/kroner-2.ram).

I read Dr. Kroner as saying that they couldn't know things about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago, he doesn't say that what is written in the Koran is knowledge of nuclear physics.

Smoke in the heavens? Could mean cloud for all we know. If heaven and earth were once all a nebular cloud, where is heaven now? You can't make claims involving nuclear physics to support something which lies outside of nuclear physics.

If heaven did exist, even by believers standards, it is not a physical plane.

Either you have a hearing problem or you are trying just to reject the truth no matter what. Anyone can hear Dr. Kroner and watch him clearly saying " Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment The Religion of Islam - Home Page.

Another thing, I am just surprised why you don't be JUST, either you can accept the truth, be idle, or reject it and no reason to be so aggressive and make fun of yourself by making new scientific facts while I show the responses of world famous Scientists in their fields admitting the miraculous scientific facts in the Quran.

My friend, we are here not to fight but to look for the TRUTH.

"The heavens and the earth were ordered rightly, and were made subservient to man, including the sun, the moon, the stars, and day and night. Every heavenly body moves in an orbit assigned to it by ALLAH (God) and never digresses, making the universe an orderly cosmos whose life and existence, diminution and expansion, are totally determined by the Creator." [Qur'an 30:22]

So you are saying that Heaven is on a physical plane?

The Quran is Arabic witchcraft, and an expression of utter evil. It must be suppressed at all costs. :no:

On what authority?

And from the evil of those who practice witchcraft when they blow in the knotsAnd they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their ownselves, if they but knew

This is what you use to justify your belief in Islam on? The information you provide here is weak and circumstantial. If you hope to gain converts to your religion you had better come up with a better argument.

I don't blame you for trying though, it is hard for many people to give up the religion into which they were born; to admit that their fathers were utterly mistaken, and that the sacred records of their country are but collections of myths and fables.
But when we look for a moment at the world, we find that each nation has it's "sacred records"--it's religion, and its ideas of worship. Certainly all cannot be right; as it would require a lifetime to investigate the claims of these various systems, it is hardly fair to damn a man forever, simply because he happens to believe the wrong one. All of these religions were produced by barbarians. Civilized nations have contented themselves with changing the religions of their barbaric ancestors, but they have made none. Nearly all these religions are intensely selfish. Each one was made by some contemptible little nation that regarded itself as of the almost infinite importance, and looked upon the other nations as beneath the notice of their god. In all these countries it was a crime to deny the sacred records, to laugh at the priests, to speak disrespectfully of the gods, to fail to divide your substance with the lazy hypocrites who managed your affairs in the next world upon the condition that you would support them in this. In the olden times these theological people were called soothsayers, seers, charmers, prophets, wizards and astrologers, but now we call them clergy, rabbi and imams. I call them imposters.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah (God) hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"


"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"

"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"

"Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"

"Not a single messenger did We (Allah) send before you (Muhammad) without this inspiration sent by Us to him - that there is no god but I, therefore worship and serve Me." [Quran 21:25]

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." (Quran 3:85)

"And when it is said to them: "Come to what Allah has revealed and unto the Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him) for the verdict of that which you have made unlawful)." They say: "Enough for us is that which we found our fathers following," even though their fathers had no knowledge whatsoever and no guidance." (Noble Quran 5:104)



"And similarly, We sent not a warner before you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) to any town (people) but the luxurious ones among them said: "We found our fathers following a certain way and religion, and we will indeed follow their footsteps." (The warner) said: "Even if I bring you better guidance than that which you found your fathers following?" They said: "Verily, We disbelieve in that with which you have been sent."" (Noble Quran 43:89-90)

I submit simple evidence that Islam is not anything more then a man made religion. Their treatment of woman. There it is! it's as simple as that. A woman is a perfect instrument of creation. They are a source of such beauty that if there was a god or allah that logic dictates he bestowed his greatest gifts upon the female. Yet Islam relegates woman to a subserviance to men. Man controls woman in islam like an indentured servant. Forcing her to hide her beauty out of fear of mans own inability to control himself. They beat there woman for minor infractions, and when a man commits rape on a woman, the woman is to blame for mans inability to control himself. (just read about an incident in Saudi Arabia today about a women who was raped by 7 men. She kidnapped at knife point and raped repeatedly. The judge punished the rapists with 5 year sentences. The woman was give 90 lashs with a whip for being alone with men who was not her husband.) If islam was inspired by a god then surely woman would have been made equal with man. Yet she is not, and that is in itself evidence that Islam is a Barbaric religion. You can quote all the quran you want. But it is all words written by men who wished to create a system by which they could exert control over the masses. You fell for it , hook line and sinker, now they control you. But being a sheep as you are, I am sure this suits you just fine. After all it is harder to think for one's self then have some one think for you.

Okay, my friend as I said to my other non-muslim friends here: Be Just and do Not let Ignorance and hate blind you.

The best reply to your false allegation is to discuss "Woman's Status in Quran & Bible" the holy scriptures of both Islam and Judaism-Christianity and then anyone can honestly compare and decide by himself. Before we do that, I want to highlight the fact that Islam states that the Bible has been corrupted by men and it is not the original words of God. So let us start:

First, Woman's Status In Islam:

(1)There is a great deal of good in some women: "O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (Quran, 4:19)"

(2) Men and women were created for each others, in order to live in peace, harmony and love with each others as husbands and wives: "And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (Quran, 30:21)"

(3) Men can not harm their wives: "...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(Quran, 2:231)"

(4) "If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (Quran, 4:128)"

(5) Women have equal rights for them and against them: "..and for women are rights equal to the rights against them but men have a degree over them (in the context of divorce) in what is just. (Quran, 2:228)"

(6) "And among Allah's (God's) signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect.(Quran, 30:21)"

(7) The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The best believers are the best in conduct, and the best of you are those who are best to their wives."

(8) Righteousness determines the value of humans in Allah Almighty's sight. It is not their gender or race: "O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (Quran, 49:13)"

(9) Allah Almighty equalizes between men and women in good deeds; "If any do deeds of righteousness be they male or female and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them. (Quran, 4:124)"

(10) Allah Almighty ordered men in the Noble Quran to take care of women and to protect them; "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. (Quran 4:34)"

(11) Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran: "O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. (Quran, 4:19)"

(12) "He who is involved in bringing up daughters, and accords benevolent treatment towards them, they will be protection for him against Hell-Fire." (Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him).

(13) Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"

(14) "He who is involved in bringing up daughters, and accords benevolent treatment towards them, they will be protection for him against Hell-Fire." (Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him).

(15) The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect of the believers in faith is the best of them in moral excellence, and the best of you are the kindest of you to their wives.”

(16) Aswad said, I asked A'isha, "What did the Prophet (peace be upon him) do when in his house? She said, he served his wife, meaning that he did work for his wife. (Bukhari).

(17) The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Paradise lies under the feet of the mother."

(18) The Prophet of Allah said that" if a person has three daughters whom he provides for and brings up, Allah will surely reward him with paradise."

(19) Women have the right for the highest education, unlike what some Muslim fanatics claim: Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari: "The Prophet said, 'He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Manumission of Slaves, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 723)".

(20) Unsecured men do not represent Islam. I don't have to oppress my wife and keep her down in order for me to keep our marriage. No, I instead use Noble Verse 30:21 when dealing with my wife: "And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"


The above are just examples from the holy book of Islam (Quran) and from the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
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Now Let us see how the Bible view Women:

(1) The "biblical" Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men (since Jesus, the GOD, is the one who supposedly inspired the New Testament as Christians claim): Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."

(2) "...if a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days...but if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks..." (Bible : Leviticus 12:2-5).

(3) Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as "the biblical" Jesus put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses. Anything they touch becomes unclean: Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.

(4) Birth of any female is a loss: Ecclesiasticus 22:3 "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible. It's a Roman Catholics Bible).

(5) Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls: Exodus 21:7-8 "And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl, she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her."

(6) Daughters inherit nothing when there are sons: "If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter. (Numbers 27:8)" So the American law of splitting everything equally is not Biblical.

(7) "I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare." "Look," says the Teacher, "this is what I have discovered: "Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things-while I was still searching but not finding- I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all."
Ecclesiastes 7:26-28.

(8) "When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. Whoever touches her bed must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whoever touches anything she sits on must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whether it is the bed or anything she was sitting on, when anyone touches it, he will be unclean till evening."
Leviticus 15:19-23.

(9) "let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for woman to speak in the church." 1Corinthians 14:34-35.

(10) in Christianity: Woman is a daughter of falsehood,.(Saint John Damascene).

(11) in Christianity: Woman is a sentinel of Hell, .(Saint John Damascene).

(12) in Christianity: Woman is the enemy of peace; through her Adam lost paradise. (Saint John Damascene).

(13) in Christianity: Woman is the fountain of the arm of the Devil, her voice is the hissing of the serpent (St Anthony).

(14) in Christianity: Woman has the poison of an asp, the malice of a dragon (St. Gregory).

(15) "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head...If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head" 1 Corrinthians 11:3-6.

(16) "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God" 1 Timothy 2:9-10.

(17) "After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him." 2 Samuel 5:13.

(18) "He (Solomon) had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines..." 1 Kings 11:3.

(19) "And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah." Genesis 4:19.

(20) "If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the first-born son be hers that was hated: then it shall be, when he maketh..." Deuteronomy 21:15.



Now I leave the sincere reader to decide which religion (Islam or Christianity/Judaism) and which book (The Quran or the Bible) honors the woman!