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Old 09-11-2008, 06:41 AM   #10
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Re: 25 Reasons You Might Be a Liberal

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which ones? The ones you choose? As i said before Gay is not mentioned in either.
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shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.” On its face, this provision seems to mean
seems to mean? what does it seem to mean to you? I suppose you can interpret it how you like but that does not mean that SCOTUS will adhere to your opinion.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:31 AM   #11
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which ones? The ones you choose? As i said before Gay is not mentioned in either.seems to mean? what does it seem to mean to you? I suppose you can interpret it how you like but that does not mean that SCOTUS will adhere to your opinion.
Liberty of contract, look it up!
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Why, that has nothing about gays either.
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Old 09-12-2008, 10:25 AM   #13
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Why, that has nothing about gays either.
gay marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults, as such, it is protected under "liberty of contract".

this is one argument you cannot win!
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:33 PM   #14
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Re: 25 Reasons You Might Be a Liberal

Once difference, in most peoples definition and that is the majority, marriage is between a man and a women, period.
Man + women = marriage
Man + man does not = marriage
women + women does not = marriage

By definition of marriage the gays only choice is the opposite sex.
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:05 AM   #15
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Once difference, in most peoples definition and that is the majority, marriage is between a man and a women, period.
Man + women = marriage
Man + man does not = marriage
women + women does not = marriage

By definition of marriage the gays only choice is the opposite sex.
mar·riage /ˈmærɪdʒ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mar-ij] Pronunciation Key
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d. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.






Across cultures, the ceremonial and social phenomena conventionally defined as marriage assume myriad forms and serve varied purposes, yet marriage is usually defined as the formal ideological recognition of a sexual relationship between one man and one woman (monogamy) ; among one man and two or more women (polygamy: polygyny) ; or among one woman and two or more men (polygamy: polyandry). Because sexual intercourse is approved in this relationship, the children of a marriage usually possess a status superior to children born beyond its boundaries.




In Loving v. Virginia (1967), the Court affirmed that marriage was a fundamental right and accordingly invalidated a state ban on interracial marriage. Zablocki v. Redhail (1978) voided a Wisconsin law prohibiting the remarriage of a noncustodial parent who failed to pay court‐ordered child support. All these challenged restrictions violated the right to wed that the Court found implicitly guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment. However, most kinds of state regulation of marriage have survived judicial scrutiny.




*If you wish to argue semantics then surely you have nothing left to support your position......as usual.
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Old 09-16-2008, 12:38 AM   #16
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Marriage it a religious event, always was always will be.
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Marriage it a religious event, always was always will be.
Mine wasn't.

There are also religions out there that don't care about same-sex marriages. What about marriage under those religions?
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Marriage it a religious event, always was always will be.
unless it's done in a courtroom or on the deck of a ship!
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